Nothing better than Atheism

Better than Atheist. Which kind of religion better than Atheism? Nothing... why? Atheist is not religion, so you can not compare to any religion. Sometimes human need to rest his old faith to new idea, that is the most matches terms for classify atheism. Are you atheist? then your idea works as well as your god's unfaithful. Yes, that was the true, Atheist have a better brain to talk and debate more than any religion ever existed.
Talk much and less doing, what atheist did? They make mesh here and there, they made debate here and there, what else? nothing better than an atheist (in debate) and I won't debate with any of them. heheheh.
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Ateis menurut kamus ter-BESAR / kecil

Karl Marx atheist prophetAPA ITU ATEIS? ateis /atéis/ adalah n orang yg tidak percaya akan adanya Tuhan: kelompok -- tidak akan mengambil bagian dl suatu upacara agama. 

Truly terms above is not exactly true! because often atheist or agnostic who did not admit existence of god defied to definite what is “GOD”. I don't think that was reasonable but, it just they said and maybe you may read it at determining atheist. 

Some of them thought because they don’t believe in god they need not to determine or make definition of God itself. I don’t know how they make it but it is greatest joke in the world.

May I tell a story for analogy for what happen? of course you would like to hear it (I guess). You knew there are too many kind of foods: Rice, Meat, Pizza and Spaghetti, Caviar, Yan Wo (sarang walet) Porridge. there is a country man who ever try to taste local salty burnt meat at his village, and he claim the salty meat is the most delicious food in the world. Is it funny?

Meanwhile when there is someone told the country man there are too many foods that had superb delicious taste! Do you know what he say? NAY!! I do not need to taste it, because I already knew this burnt and salty meat is the most DELICIOUS food in the world!

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Interpretation

Indonesia’s unique interpretation of human rights in respect of freedom of choice in religion, and secularism.

Professor Dr. Suyahmo of the Universitas Negeri Semarang (Unnes) said recently that human rights are basically universal and applicable to all but will take different forms in practical terms in each country, according to differing circumstances, history and culture.

Every country is free to determine human rights values in accordance with their ideology.

Because of this human rights in Indonesia would be different than in other countries, for example in the area of religion.

In secular countries people are free to adopt whatever religion they want, or none at all.

But Indonesia was founded on the Pancasila doctrine and it required that all citizens belong to a particular religion. However the country did allow people to choose which religion they wished to belong to, although the fact that this choice was limited to only six officially recognized faiths, they being Islam, Protestantism, Catholicism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Confucianism, was a violation of human rights, he said. [indonsiamatters.com]

footnotes: Off course Every King have his own rule

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God Permitted Atheist?

One of human characteristic: dissent opinion.
Stupid leader always wish all people is obedient as docile ox to them. I am not personally atheist or agnostic. But I have not dead set against people who follow such course.
Holy book Qur'an: S 2. V: 30.
Behold, Thy Lord said to the angels: "I will create a vicegerent on earth." They said, "wilt Thou place therein one who will make mischief therein and shed blood? - Whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?" He said: "I know what ye know not."

From God’s explanation above, we can understand that dissent is one of human characteristics. Why is that? As man and only man who is given freedom to think. Dissent opinion happens to be not a problem that should be underlined. Dissent thus should be encouraged and maintained.

In this case, it is our problems now as a result of leader who has no knowledge and the absence of the wise leadership. So that all he want a docile ox is evidence of leadership style that has not adequate intellectuality and the leadership ability.

Stupid leader always wish all people is obedient to them. I am not personally atheist or agnostic. But I have not dead set against people who follow such course.
Human rights are given by the God. Human entitled to different opinions. Many experts also acknowledge that when opinions crashing with one another the result is a higher value truth will revealed.
Disagreement can be evidence of independence. Humans can not develop as human if their freedom is pressed or erased. This problem will be difficult to understand for them who have no adequate intellectuality. (walaupun saya juga pas-pasan)
That is why the angel who has no proper education (maybe only graduate from middle school) tries to protest God.

They said, "Wilt Thou place therein one that will make mischief therein and shed blood? - Whilst we do celebrate Thy praises and glorify Thy holy (name)?"

In this context we must remember that in another verse God said:

QS. 51. V56. I have only created jinns and men, that they may serve Me

Fugacious reason of the angels is logical.
If only serve as a matter of you God, aren’t we work 24 a day and 7 days a week is dedicate to serve you? Glorify Your Holy Name? What's the man who created havoc and shed blood?

Thus perhaps the angel’s logic! This kind of logic reason is almost same as "orde baru" era leader’s logical reason with the pretext of security and stability they pressed all Indonesian people freedom.

And what about Indonesian nowadays? what about the Indonesian people who dead set against atheism?.. to be continue
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God is not worth to think too much?

In a certain objective conditions, the one who openly declare to be an atheist (in Indonesia) could be considered as wasting act, for example, make family or and friends sad and disappoint, may lost his job, or even his declare could make him death foolishly.
I am an agnostic (I'm wait ..), and only dare to declare my agnosticism just for few people: me, the one I love and open minded people. Sounds like an opportunist is not it?
nope ... I just trying to be rational, and more importantly, believe or not God will never solve the 'real' problem, such as: the energy crisis, consumer culture, bad education, poverty and so forth,
so IT is not worth to think too much.. . hehehehe :))
rough translation from 20century boy's comment on "mengapa atheis takut orang beragama". sorry if it is not precise! :)

thanks for your comment, I've set this blog to accept anonymous comments. but it is seem a little trouble, and I am not skilled with any html or programing language..
I had a bad head ache now.. I really appreciate your comment! but I can not think about any now..
to be continue...
February 23 2009 .. to continue
there is Indonesian adage:
Human can only make effort, pray, and the destiny solely on God decision.
Energy crisis, consumer culture, bad education, poverty and so forth, I think they are not concern of God. He should already have a lot of job, to take care the huge universe, to maintain the milky way that it not crashing to Andromeda nebula, and so on. We will never reach knowledge of what kind work is He doing.
More over there enough for human to resolve the human matters. Do you think God desperately needs our worship to Him? Nope! We should know first RULE to approaching any religion.
God is Independence. God needs us not!
We do need Him, or I do need God, if you don't need Him.
If you really don't need the last hope to rely. Then you may say God is not worth to think too much.

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Mengapa atheis takut pada orang beragama?

jawaban yang diperoleh dari yang ngaku atheis di yahoo answer:

  1. orang beragama sih enak, habis bunuh orang, bakar rumah ibadah, malah dapet pahala surga dan bidadari. trus orang-orang beragama jauh lebih berkuasa drpd allahnya sendiri. liat aja, begitu disinggung dikit langsung angkat senjata membela nama allahnya. tentu saja atheist takut, krn orang beragama seakan punya kekuasaan lebih besar drpd junjungannya, takut kalau punya mental picik seperti pengikut agama, takut kalo rumahnya tiba2 dibakar, keluarganya dibunuh, karena menyatakan pendapat sebenernya.
  2. gw atheist takut sama orang beragama.....??? ....b e n a r...... liat aja orang2 beragama... tersinggung dikit main gebuk, bakar, bunuh... dll deh.... disini juga orang beragama saling hujat, caci, ancam, benci... dll deh... ada juga yang jelas2 ngebom sambil teriak allahnya... hhiiiiiyyyy........ serem........ takuuuuuutttt.....
    takut tertular kegilaan orang beragama...

Jawaban yang diperoleh dari yang non atheis:
  1. Bukan hanya ateis yang takut kawan...aliran kepercayaan bahkan yang beragama aja takut sama yang beragama. mengapa? perlakuan mereka itu lo...menakutkan!
wah.. ternyata sudah banyak atheist di indonesia ya?
kesimpulan saya sementara ini :
  1. mereka (atheis di indonesia) takut pada orang beragama karena beragama itu dicap jelek oleh mereka dan orang beragama seram-seram.
  2. padahal menurut orang beragama juga takut kepada orang beragama.
  3. tetapi orang beragama di indonesia umumnya juga takut sama orang yang atheist, jika mereka sudah jumlahnya sudah banyak, takutnya sejarah PKI (partai komunis Indonesia) terulang..
  4. mereka orang-orang komunis yang tidak percaya Tuhan (atheis), membunuh tanpa pandang bulu. sementara orang beragama setidak-tidaknya membunuh pakai aturan. dan cenderung tidak menyerang jika tidak disalahi. dan katanya pula tidak membunuh anak-anak, wanita, dan orang tua yang lemah.
silahkan berkomentar

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Godforsaken, Why? Part II, Nada-Nada Atheis

Jika Surga dan Neraka tidak pernah ada

If Heaven and Hell never exist
Are we all really sincere worship him
Or maybe we just fear of Hell and Paradise want

Reff: If heaven and hell never exist
Do you still kneel to Him (God)
If heaven and hell never Exist
Do you still call His name

Can we all
truly heartfelt prostration
He really is because there
Well worth the worship
indeed worth adored

Artists are always have free expression as Chrisye and Ahmad Dhani in the song “If Heaven and Hell does not exist”.
But if we look at the song lyrics there is nuance of atheism there. Because in Holy Book, the God Himself has said to the angels about the creation of human on earth, and God policies doubted by angels. Later, angels who doubt to God policies will familiar named as devil, which always flowing doubt to human in their ethereal life.

For the artist’s question in the song will never find a point of light, the answer won’t come unless you are dead and fortunate one of the performers has died. Of course he had known the answer now.

Many songs like this enrich world music in Indonesia. The problem now is Indonesian people faith is getting less and less. While the new religions continuously appear, and Indonesian atheist grow bigger. Just like mushrooms in the rainy season. Now in Indonesia religions considered just like the game and joke.

Words of song as well as advertising on Indonesian Television.
For example this advertising:
Remember cough, remember Konidin
Remember cough, remember Konidin
Then when we cough, we will remember to Konidin (Cough medicine), as I always do.

True that song is only creativity in the art world and there is no doubt about it. But every day it sung and humming via Indonesian Television to every ear; what if heaven and hell never exist? Then turn when someone gets complicated problems that include the faith, the buzz will reincarnate into DOUBT, and FINNALY become unbeliever to the creator of paradise and hell or in other word: Indonesian Atheist!
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